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There isn't equal participation

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"We have a history in which women have the vote earliest and we are proud of that. We constantly want, I think many of us sort of live up to the ideal of what it, it represented. So that continues to be something we talk about. It might often be an ideal that we feel we're not quite fulfilling."

Speakers

Katie Woolfe, Prof Charlotte Macdonald, Dr Claudia Orange, DNZM and Prof Linda Tuhiwai Smith.


Transcript

Katie Woolfe: When I was at high school in the 1980s, there was a major government campaign called 'girls can do anything' and there were bumper stickers on cars and I thought that was just obvious, of course my fifteen year old self was going to do anything I wanted.

Prof Charlotte Macdonald: We have a history in which women have the vote earliest and we are proud of that. We constantly want, I think many of us sort of live up to the ideal of what it, it represented. So that continues to be something we talk about. It might often be an ideal that we feel we're not quite fulfilling.

Dr Claudia Orange, DNZM: There are two aspects that I think need to be addressed and one would be a a an increasing role in development of education, in terms of understanding civics and community better and also to, for that to be applied equally to the education of males and females, you know because there's, there are roles there for, that should be open for discussion.

Prof Linda Tuhiwai Smith: There is a funny culture when you are the only woman in the room. You know that and that's, I work in a professional culture. When you are the only woman and you are the only Māori at the same time, ah in the room there's 90% of the social conversation you are excluded from.

Dr Claudia Orange, DNZM: We are still about 14% less paid, roughly, across the whole um employment body, which is astonishing, we're just not very good bargainers.

Prof Charlotte Macdonald: We know there are differences in representation on things like boards of directors and still in places like parliament and the courts. So there are still differences, you know, there isn't equal participation.

Prof Linda Tuhiwai Smith: Um and, and it's why quite a lot of Māori women don't really engage overtly in feminism, you know that we sort of can have a concept of mana wahine which also includes our men.

Katie Woolfe: It's only I guess in the last five to ten years, I've gone, hang on, what's gone wrong, why, where, where are all my, where's all my female peers in my industry, what's happened, why aren't they coming through. Why am I seeing from you know, the content from overseas, being so, still driven by a, a male lens, I guess.

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