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Men talk about women

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"I think we all owe it to ourselves and to each other to remind ourselves that we still have a lot to learn..."

Speakers

Nicky Hager, Dai Henwood, Steve Hansen and Michael Galvin.


Transcript

Nicky Hager: The position of women in New Zealand is completely different than it was in the past. There has been immense progress.

Dai Henwood: We haven't addressed the male female thing yet, there is still the glass ceiling.

Nicky Hager: Women are much more powerful and much freer than they would be in many other parts of the world and also they don't have the same opportunities on average and they don't have the same safety on average as a man does.

Steve Hansen: Um, you know society at times all over the world lets women down I think but New Zealand while we're not perfect I think are getting better.

Michael Galvin: I think we all owe it to ourselves and to each other to remind ourselves that we still have a lot to learn and even if you are an old fart like me.

Steve Hansen: Well firstly we have to admit that probably the women are right in the sense that they're not treated equally because there's so many factual things that we can turn to that, that actually agree with them and wages for example.

Dai Henwood: I know growing up as, as a boy having a mother who is a lawyer and then a judge, one of the, the second female judge in New Zealand and she was very young when she became a judge. How hard she had to fight and how hard she still has to fight to just get into what is the old boys club.

Steve Hansen: Ah the boys club, I think that's changed, I hope it has, we're very family orientated team and you know you will see in our environment wives and partners are very much part of who we are.

Michael Galvin: I just think we need to keep reminding ourselves, young people too that we don't know it all and and and that that the things we believe in thus far we may have been wrong about.

Nicky Hager: What we're seeing is we're seeing a country which is in a state of transition where where the suffragettes have done one part of it and other people have done other parts of it and we're on our way somewhere which we definitely are, we're going in the right direction but like on every issue we're not there yet.

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